So today some new pre-production images were posted to the 3rd & Townsend website of their upcoming Harriman V2.0 project cars. These are the actual models from the actual assembly line setup. So I'm interested to take a look!
72-IC-1/2/3 "Sub" San Francisco "Commute" Car
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| 72-IC-1/2/3 model from Golden Gate Depot/Third & Townsend Models. |
The "Sub" looks nice, these will be fun to see made up into Commutes with a 4-8-2 or 4-6-2 on the front, or in later eras GP9 or Trainmasters. A friend without internet has asked me to order a couple of these for him... so I'll be doing a review when those arrive.
72-C-1 Coach/Chair Car
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| As-Built 1924 72-C-1 Coach from Golden Gate Depot/Third & Townsend Models. |
I have one of these on order, looking forward to doing a kitbash of this car to modernize it to the post-1937/39 air conditioned version of the car. Mostly I expect to be removing most of the square roof vents and adding a couple vents for the A/C intake/exhaust and underbody details, which should be fairly minor modifications to the painted models.
77-D-1/3/4 Diner
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| Aisle-side view of the first HW SP arch-roof diner in plastic! |
Finally, an Air Conditioned (1937+) HW SP Diner! I've only been waiting ~30 years for this car! Obviously, I may need to relocated or add a couple of car-by-car accurate underbody details, etc...
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| Very impressive kitchen side of the 77-D-1/3/4 Dining Car. |
Some prototype cars had the single window opposite the kitchen blanked out in later life, but I'll take this as a starting point!
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| Close-up of the Kitchen section. |
In some cars starting around 1946-1952, some of the lower kitchen windows were painted over as the back-splashes of the sinks inside were raised, making the lower windows in the kitchen section redundent. I'm looking forward to seeing if the painted models will come with correctly painted over windows.
75-CS Lounge
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| Barber/Bar side of 75-CS Lounge Car from Golden Gate Depot/Third & Townsend Models. |
While I've not been waiting as long for one of these Lounge cars as I've been waiting for the Diner, these Lounges are MUCH harder to kitbash from anything that's been available in plastic so far. So the only real option then was waiting for a TCY brass model to come up for sale and pay upwards of $350-600+ for it, unpainted, then painting it.
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| Side view of the interior on the Aisle-side of the 75-CS Lounge. |
The interior looks nice on this model, it will be fun to put in figures chatting and sipping on various drinks in the lounge. Notice that the two center windows have seating 'sections' there with opposed bench seats, where as the rest of the seating is chairs or small sofas with their backs to the windows.
72-O-1 Observation Lounge (Parlor)
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| 72-O-1 Observation-Lounge from Golden Gate Depot/Third & Townsend Models. |
I'm impressed to see photo-etched brass handrails on the observation car! These cars also had a large window in the end-wall for the rear lounge occupants to watch the right-of-way receding as the train cruises smoothly to the destination. The model also appears to have etchings in the transoms of the side windows.
So while this is a limited prototype car, and rather era constrained as well, I look forward to seeing a sample, I went ahead and ordered one of them in the Oregon - Washington RR & Navigation Co. paint scheme, which lasted longer than the SP's which were rebuilt in the early 1920s into full dining cars.
So while this is a limited prototype car, and rather era constrained as well, I look forward to seeing a sample, I went ahead and ordered one of them in the Oregon - Washington RR & Navigation Co. paint scheme, which lasted longer than the SP's which were rebuilt in the early 1920s into full dining cars.
In Closing
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| An end-view of the various models from Golden Gate Depot/Third & Townsend Models. |
My closing thoughts are that these models look like they'll easily live up to my 90%+ expectation of accuracy. Probably will pass upwards of 95% out of the box. I'm already planning to do some work to the diaphragms to make these cars work with my other prototypical passenger cars with correct distance "close coupling", which will probably require work to the coupler pockets too at some level, but honestly, I expect to have to do this on any car that I pick up, whether it's Soho, other brass, Walthers, Athearn, MDC, etc. So I'm not in any way deterred from doing work on these models.
Currently there was a note on the reservations now pushed back to the end of November 2025, with January 2026 ETA, which is fine with me. Good stuff like this is worth waiting another few months from the original expected delivery date. After all, I am going to be rebuilding my Jawbone Branch layout over the winter, so don't need a new set of passenger cars to run on it just yet. But I will be very much looking forward to seeing how these cars turn out in the next few months.
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| GGD/TTM pre-order artwork for SP 10115 San Joaquin Daylight "Protection" Diner. |
Jason Hill
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